veaxer (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

They participate when they want.Watch this videos:1)GRADOS WING CHUN'S- SHAWN "SEAL THE DEAL" OBASI2)18 SEC KO!! GRADOS WING CHUN'S SHAWN "SEAL THE DEAL" OBASIThese are about a wing chun practicioner that tries his skills in mma tournaments!Every martial art is effective if you train properly and hard,and above all keep sparring!!

veaxer (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I already did dude.The video is:Fred Floyd - Richard Heard / WVC 1 - Bareknuckle

kommisar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Post it on here so we can watch it.And just to let you know, vale tudo is still around. These TMA braggerts are free to participate.

veaxer (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes they did!Thats the video of the final i just found it !!: Fred Floyd - Richard Heard / WVC 1 - Bareknuckle.The kung fu guy had won a non tma guy to get to the semis,but there his opponent quited due to injuries so he proceded to the finals.I cannot find a video of the jkd practicioner who lost at the semifinals but i will keep searching..

kommisar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes, I have watched vale tudo. Early UFC's, IVC and Rio Heroes, not to mention the extremely few that are available of the early matches held in Brazil during the Gracie reign.Did these JKD and kung fu guys beat the a non-TMA figther to get the the semis and the finals?

kommisar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Is that way all of the guys who go into the UFC have previous fight experiences? The UFC does not hire guys fresh off the street, dick. You have no proof of that either. For example, they wouldn't hire you, and not only because you are a cocksucking joke.It's funny how you call the guys in the UFC "nobodies" while your "proven fighters" are nothing but actors, all with a 0-0 fight record. Kind of ironic, don't you think?

veaxer (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Have you EVER watched Vale Tudo?I don't think so...For your information in the 5th world vale tudo championship(or perhaps the 7th ,i have to check my dvds again),in the semifinals there was a jeetkunedo practicioner and the final was between a kung fu practicioner and a grecoroman wrestler.Get your facts straight dude and stop hating.Peace!

kommisar (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Jball, your insecurity over your own sexuality is extremely apparent. Lots of tough, badass fighters use wrestling, and some of these guys are married to with kids. You can't even distinguish between pro wrestling and Greco-Roman/freestyle. Saying wrestling is gay (while jerking off to guys prancing around in pajamas) shows just how desperate you are to disparage a fighting style that has proven 100x more effective than you fantasy fighting bullshit. Grow the fuck up.

ikickasslee (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

i agree with jball wrestling is 2 gay guys touching each other

Zer0zUnLtd (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

the other guy is tae kwon do